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: : : I currently consider myself to be a Messianic Jew : : : (not a Jew for Jesus)-- believe in Yeshua the Messiah : : : along with the Torah and Brit Hadasha. At the same : : : time I'm trying to learn/understand the other 'forms' : : : of Jews/Judaism (though most don't consider Messianic : : : Judaism a Jewish movement: : : : http://shamash.org/lists/scj-faq/HTML/faq/02-02.html ). : : : I've tried to get a basic understanding of each of the : : : movements (Reform, Conservative, Orthodox, Conservadox, : : : Reconstructionist, Hidic/Chidic, ???). : : : Is there a site on the web, book for purchase or could : : : someone give me a basic overview of the 'known : : : movements'. What I'm looking for is what each groups : : : believes (doesn't believe), what the follow, etc. : : : The way I could describe what I know about what I : : : know of what I follow (Messianic Judaism) is what I've : : : stated above-- yet I've seen different beliefs/ideas : : : among: : : : 1- some say that the Messiah came (Yeshua- Hebrew, : : : Jesus- Greek, etc.) and that He got rid of the 613 : : : Laws (yet from what I've read, understand, know- : : : Yeshua followed the law and was the Living Torah for : : : those to know/understand-- that He never claimed the : : : laws were done with and not to follow them)-- plus : : : this would be saying the Hashem made a mistake in : : : creating the laws (saying that Hashem can err and make : : : mistakes) and that the Messiah was here to correct it : : : 2- others claim Yeshua came and now they can do as they : : : please (because they are saved once and no matter what : : : they do they can't be 'unsaved'- yet the Torah teaches : : : of being lukewarm, backslidden, fallen-- Solomon is : : : a good example, he started out good but later on turned : : : from the Lord (Hashem) : : : 3- others claim Yeshua hasn't come, but He will soon : : : come (yet don't state how one should act/live till then) : : : 4- and even others say Yeshua came, but they should : : : only follow what was originally given to them (613 : : : Laws) : : : So as you can see...I'm confussed by the different : : : movements or types of Jews/Judaism... : : : This is a site that also claims Messianic Judaism : : : is a false religion and states that on the Messiah : : : can come in the future (not from the past)-- though : : : they use references they don't use other references : : : from the same pages or books (i.e. they don't : : : mention Isaiah 53 or others refering the Messiah) : : : http://www.jewfaq.org/moshiach.htm : : : Any info on the differnet forms of Judaism is much : : : appreciated-- I need to understand where each group : : : stands and perhaps why (I more or less undestand : : : Reform, Orthodox and Conservative- though I get mixed : : : ideas from different sites)... : : : Shalom, : : : Matt : : : : Try the Pauline Epistles. Why reinvent the wheel? : Tell me about this Pauline Epistles? What movement is this?

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