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: : Greetings from another s : : toic - good to know there are : : two or three of us left! : : I would like to think that stoicism is more than a : : philosophy for the "select" few, or for the "rigorous : : and uncompromising". : : In my opinion it is a real workable philosophy for life : : and greatly underestimated today. Although it constitutes : : a major root of modern western culture, one seldom sees : : a sympathetic account of it, and often it is portrayed : : by modern academics in ways which suggest that Marcus : : is the only stoic they have actually read. : : It is remarkable that in classical western literature, : : the teachings of only three stoics survive in any volume : : - those of Marcus, Epictetus and Seneca. Marcus comes : : across as one who is struggling with life, Seneca is by : : many not admired, and that leaves Epictetus! I see him : : described as a fatalist, and his philosophy summarised : : by the dreadful motto "bear and forbear". : : Anyone who has spent some time reading the Discourses : : will know that this is baloney. The things he cared about : : were Freedom and Reason, and if we want a "motto" to : : capture the main direction of his teaching, it would : : surely be "I am a free man, and a friend of God" : : (Discourses bk 4, ch 3, 9). : : I personally know of no other philosophy that makes an : : adequate response to so many dimensions of life - : : reason and values, the psychological and the spiritual. : : Dear Bruce, : Stoicism has been put into practical use in modern society - in the cognitive / behaviourist schools of psychology see Ellis, Beck, etc. : Rgs, : Andrew

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