Posted by Interpol99 on September 25, 19100 at 12:23:58:

In Reply to: Opposing Machiavelli.. posted by AIDA on September 25, 19100 at 02:27:47:

here are some ideas

1. "The end justifys the means" that if you wish to achieve a worthy goal (such as founding a new state or defeating an enemy) it is perfectly acceptable to use any means at your disposal. This can range from the merely ruthless, such as breakiong promises (which machiavelli encourages), or expending 90% of your soldiers to capture a single town to the diabolical, such as catapulting diseaussed corpses over the walls of a besieged town.

2. If you use bad methods for good ends, you gain "power but not glory", to quote Machiavelli. In practice it means that your allies may abandon you because they no longer trust taht your judgement can win the war, or they may be outraged by your cruelty

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